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Post by Dave Schultz on Dec 24, 2010 9:30:26 GMT -5
Doug -- I didn't take any offense -- we're good.
I'm guessing that this started with my saying that a cowl hood didn't look right to me on the earlier and non-Chevy (most I know refer to it as a Chevy hood when seen on a Mopar) cars.
I'll admit that most Super Stock cars in 1960 didn't have scoops, and most Super Stock cars in 1960 didn't have graphics beyond strips and lettering, and that Mags were not bright -- but the car was built within the rules and I don't believe there even gray areas with the rules. Had the rules said no graphics, no billet, and no scoop -- I would have ensured the car lived within those rules.
I see a few cars that have owners feeling they're in that gray area, but who others feel are actually outside the rules -- and I generally hold my tongue and have never made a protest against another driver/car, as I rather get along with all drivers. I think that arguments over a 63 Mopar scoop on a 64 is silly -- as they're close enough to be period correct. However, I'm one guy who doesn't want to see any more loosening of the rules, and feel like cowl hoods are for mid-60s (up) Chevys and not period correct for a 65 Coronet -- but I'll never be the one to formally protest it.
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Post by texoutsider on Dec 24, 2010 10:21:19 GMT -5
Crager SS were not bright?............Keystone classics were not bright?.........Ever look at any of Ronnie Sox's cars?
Glad you didn't take offense............but I dam sure did........All Doug ever does is nit pick the rules, do his best to try and find anything to try and tear apart and confuse the issues with statements that are out of context and whine about his Chevrolet not having a decent carb/intake rule. I have heard this same chit from him for years............a bit of research might help to understand a little more before slamming all the rest.
Have a Merry Christmas to all
Mark
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Post by poppaj on Dec 24, 2010 11:49:01 GMT -5
As Mark said, there was a lot of "bright" chromed rims. As for intakes and heads are you kidding me... some of the most exotic aluminum heads and intake setups were produced for Super Stock in the mid to late 60's, Fords Cammer or tunnel port wedge, Mopars Stage III max wedge, 64'-65' race hemi, Pontiac had the 421 SD, Buick's 455 stageIII and Chevy that someone was saying nothing was availible intake wise for... how about the 427/435 tri-power, 427 "Mystery "motor with 2x4's in 63-64' then there is the 427 all aluminum ZL1......You might want to try the 3x2 setup, I ran a 67' Corvette in SS/EA with a 427/435 setup in the early 80's NHRA legal trim it was a very low ten second car. I would think that would be an excellent intake choice with a large cubic inch motor since you would have 1650cfm ..
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Post by fastdiesel on Dec 24, 2010 11:54:47 GMT -5
I'm just glad to be part of all this! You guys are fun to race with, even you (some of you) can be a bunch of brats on the forum!!!!!! ;D We got a great thing going here! I LOVE AMERICA! AND AMERICAN MUSCLE! Go work on the cars. See you in a a couple months. We'll see, at the track, who's right! When the tree drops, the BS stops! Merry Christmas to all! Jimmy Ray (yea, with the cowl hood!)  |
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Post by torquer on Dec 24, 2010 12:22:36 GMT -5
Merry Christmas to all and be safe and Mark take care of things in Texas. Racing is the fun part, we can dicuss this stuff but I hope no one gets up set over what is said and opinions expressed. I know we are dominated by Mopars, but I thought a Chevy would be a piece of cake to go fast with if that is what you wanted to do. Let's see, 632 inches, heads you can run full grown rabbits through the ports, and yes good intakes and I know a guy that can build you a 4150 that will flow 1050+cfm, roller cams and killer springs and anything else you need. Try doing this with a Buick, don't bother me, I just shut up and race most of the time.
Happy Holidays
Jim N.
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Post by danbell on Dec 24, 2010 15:43:10 GMT -5
Hell the Grand Father of tunnel rams was Fords IE runner tunnel port,and the tunnel wedge for non TP engines.The term "hi-riser" was 1st used by Chevy for their raised intake for the Z11.
Hood scoops for GM factory Chevy,and Pontiacs had a Ford truck part number.How about those aluminum nosed Chevys,Pontiacs,Plymouths,and Dodges.Fiberglass nosed T-Bolts,these were all from the factory.
As for aluminum radiators,they were scarce,but innovative racers were using the smaller 6 banger cores.Even using motorcycle batteries,all in the name of weight savings.
Air brushed graphis were expensive,so many racers had'em painted on by sign painters.Today thats all changed.
Graphics
Ramchargers candy stripes
Bud Fauble flying geese
Sox&Martin big crossed racing flags on their Chevy
Jere Stahal total tuned headers
Ace Wilsons Royal Pontiac hot chief
"Dynos" Nalley Chevy,large racing flags
Northwind Chevy
Melrose Missle
Golden Commandos
Phil Bonner Fords
Just a few cars with graphics,there's many more.Yea most of the guys with factory,or dealer backing had fancier lettering,and graphics,but by no means there weren't any.
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Post by danbell on Dec 24, 2010 15:47:31 GMT -5
LOL,I didn't mention some of those early fancy multi-colored paint jobs
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Post by dwatkins on Dec 24, 2010 15:48:20 GMT -5
You shouldn't take offense Mark, and I WAS NOT nitpicking any rules. Anytime anyone mentions something Like Cowl Hoods weren't period correct, you go ballistic. It wasn't even me who brought it up. Somebody else started that other argument (that you are still pissed at me about) YEARS ago when I knew nothing and I got egged on to participate in. Go find someone else to be mad at, my turn is over.
I mentioned NO One's car but my own.
And to All, I ain't upset, Y"all run what you want, If I want to think MY car needs some more touches to make it look like something back from the sixties, Than that's MY issue not yours. I earned the right to have a opinion about MY car.
Merry Christmas to All, especially to you Mark.
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Post by texoutsider on Dec 24, 2010 16:06:15 GMT -5
and a Very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too Doug....
Mark
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Post by poppaj on Dec 24, 2010 21:20:56 GMT -5
Merry Christmas to all...;D ;D ;D
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Post by muntz67 on Dec 25, 2010 1:11:18 GMT -5
You guys take this shit to seriously, nss racing is supose to be fun.
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Post by greybeard360 on Dec 25, 2010 19:33:39 GMT -5
This is the fun part.... wait until they are sober and get serious!!! But yes, these guys do take their racing serious! They put a lot of time and energy into figuring out which rules they can bend, but never break....  Merry Christmas y'all!!! |
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Post by poppaj on Dec 26, 2010 21:27:49 GMT -5
Serious comes when we get to the track..This is all in fun ;D
poppaj
AA/NSS "Whompin Wedge"
Koffel's Place B-1 power
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Post by Dave Schultz on Dec 27, 2010 11:34:00 GMT -5
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moving right along to the next topic
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Post by texoutsider on Dec 27, 2010 18:45:26 GMT -5
The Next topic?.......I have seen it...and it's a can of worms.........but not privy to say.
M.
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