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Post by AtomicWedgie on Apr 8, 2011 12:08:39 GMT -5
I have always ran M/T's with tubes because they don't hold air very well. I have just bought my 1st set of Hoosiers and was wondering if they hold air worth a darn?
I am kind of lazy so I like to put air in and go. I don't mind checking it now and again but I am not going to carry around a air tank to make sure it is perfect.
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Post by fastdiesel on Apr 8, 2011 22:41:45 GMT -5
I've been using Hoosiers for about 13 years now. They hold air tubeless, very well.
My only set of M/T's, were some 16.5x33x15, on the old tube chassis, fiberglass Ram Diesel drag truck. They didn't hold air to well (but my buddy Jack McCormick donated them, so they were VERY GOOD TIRES!).
Most of my race tries hold air, tubeless. My trick is to wipe the inside of the new tire down, with a liberal coat of Palmolive green dish washing liquid (the classic green stuff).
And old timer told me about this back in the 80's, and I've been doing it on every drive tire I've used since.... tubeless. Seldom have to add air, except for temperature changes. I do check air every round. If it's cooling off, I add a pound or two, in the pits, and adjust (let a little out) in staging, just before running.
The new Hoosier 10.5W's I put on in November '10, didn't go flat over the winter.
Another thing to be careful of, is using wheel screws that are too long. The point should just engage the bead a little. If they're too long, they will cause an air leak. The one-size-fits-all screws in the catalog, may be too long, if you have a lightweight set of aluminum rims. Check the lip thickness, then go to the hardware store and buy the appropriate length screw.
I'm sure everyone has a take on this......
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Post by AtomicWedgie on Apr 8, 2011 23:08:56 GMT -5
No screws here but that is good to know.
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Post by Dave Schultz on Apr 9, 2011 12:42:06 GMT -5
I always run tubes because that's what Mickey Thompson says to do -- and I figure they know more about slicks than I do.
That said -- everything I say this -- it causes a stir.
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Post by greybeard360 on Apr 9, 2011 13:36:38 GMT -5
Ditto on the liquid detergent. It does work, but like all good things, for a season or two from experience. I guess the soap tends to dry out and doesn't work real well after a while.
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Post by fastdiesel on Apr 9, 2011 20:16:55 GMT -5
My Hoosier DOT's tread wouldn't out last the soap! Hope the slicks last longer!
Dave, On the "M/T recommends tubes"......did you ever think that M/T is in the business of selling product? I tried tubeless over 20 years ago (against manufacturers recommendations), and have never looked back. I've saved hundreds or dollars.
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Post by Dave Schultz on Apr 10, 2011 7:44:37 GMT -5
I love the tube vs. tubeless debate. It can get as heated as
Mopar 340 vs Mopar 360 to bake into a race engine
Maryanne vs. Ginger to boys growing up in the 60s
Beatles vs. Stones
Miller Lite vs. Bud Light
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Post by AtomicWedgie on Apr 10, 2011 21:13:40 GMT -5
I know what I will do for now. I will run the slicks without tubes(for now). If I don't like the way they are performing I will put some tubes in them. I have a new set of tubes on the shelf just waiting to be mounted.
Now onto the others:
360
MaryAnne
Led Zeplin (Sorry, not a fan of either)
Bud Light
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Post by torquer on Apr 12, 2011 20:58:14 GMT -5
I realize I know nothing but what I have tried. If I had to run tubes I would not race. They are nothing but a pain in you know where. We were running our stocker tubeless in the early 70s. I have never ran tubes. I have a car with M/T Drag Radials in the garage that set all winter without going flat without tubes. The tires on my NSS car are going on 3 years old and they are not a problem. As for checking tires, if you race you have to be constantly working with tire pressure. Not because of leaking, but because of Pressure/Temperature changes. Remember Charles and Bowles Laws from High School.
Jim N.
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Post by Dave Schultz on Apr 13, 2011 7:56:20 GMT -5
Tube vs. Tubeless always gets a debate.
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Post by fastdiesel on Apr 13, 2011 10:22:27 GMT -5
I realize I know nothing but what I have tried. If I had to run tubes I would not race. They are nothing but a pain in you know where. We were running our stocker tubeless in the early 70s. I have never ran tubes. I have a car with M/T Drag Radials in the garage that set all winter without going flat without tubes. The tires on my NSS car are going on 3 years old and they are not a problem. As for checking tires, if you race you have to be constantly working with tire pressure. Not because of leaking, but because of Pressure/Temperature changes. Remember Charles and Bowles Laws from High School. Jim N. Jim, The only "law" I'm aware of, that pertains to tubes is MURPHY'S LAW!!!!! ;D |
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