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Post by nssracer on Jan 14, 2011 10:32:52 GMT -5
Dave you hit the nail on the head.
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Post by Dave Schultz on Jan 14, 2011 12:16:21 GMT -5
Money isn't as much the driving mission of your life once you get to a point where you don't fear being able to meet your family's basic needs of food, shelter, and clothing. Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs (see the pyramid above) has people who complete the bottom need moving up to try to complete the need above. If and when they complete that need, they move up to work on the next one -- etc. That's why you see so many very rich people (Bill Gates, Warren Buffet...) also so charitable (regardless of so many people hating them out of envy) -- they've hit having Esteem, and now move towards Self Actuation of leaving a legacy of their existence. Fewer people make it to this stage as it takes years of hard work combined with a little luck -- and the shape of the pyramid reflects the fewer people moving up the stages. Point is, that when money is hand and mouth for your family, you put a higher importance on it, because you should worry about the discomfort of being unable to fund your family's physical needs. Those who no longer have to worry so much about the money -- will move up towards putting the bigger focus on achieving Esteem and then finally shooting for Self Actuation. So if I were flat broke I'd be more than willing to trade some of my self-respect to flip burgers to maintain my physical needs -- as I'd have little other choice at the moment. However, when you no longer worry as much about physical needs, then self-respect becomes more important as your assets increase and money becomes less of and less of a worry. If a company wrongfully took my family business away from my family for pure political reasons -- they could offer to give cars to both Dallas and I; and a new race rig full of spare parts -- and I would tell them to shove it up their ass. I promise that's no lie. A $1Million sponsorship is just not worth such a high level of loss to my self-respect and dignity of becoming their whore. Having Doug as a good friend and knowing just a little about him, I would venture to say that he has worked hard to earn (and he also benefited with a little luck of being in the right place at the right time having a father who initially building his legacy to his family, and to Doug was provided a quality education so he would be prepared to run the business) a position in his life where his basic Physical needs are not a major concern. My guess (and I certainly have no need to pimp him -- just explaining why I think some people do things other might not understand) is that Doug's esteem and the footprint he leaves behind have become more important to him than prostituting himself car sponsorship from the people who wronged him. Doug may be too polite and humble to say any of this -- but I may not have yet reached the same level on Maslows chart so I will. Look how hard he works for the Santa Clothes charity, and you'll see how priorities evolve with increased success. Everyone likes more money and to pay less for their shit -- but as you move up the pyramid the level of importance you give to money changes, as does your wanting to making a bigger mark for the short time we're on this rock. Hell, I'd say they're lucky he even gets into a Plymouth or Dodge after what they did to his family, after all the sweat Dave and Doug gave them over a long period.
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Post by stillrock69 on Jan 15, 2011 18:28:30 GMT -5
More of the story......
Source - Wikipedia
Maslow's hierarchy of needs is a theory in psychology, proposed by Abraham Maslow in his 1943 paper A Theory of Human Motivation.[2] Maslow subsequently extended the idea to include his observations of humans' innate curiosity. His theories parallel many other theories of human developmental psychology, all of which focus on describing the stages of growth in humans. Maslow studied what he called exemplary people such as Albert Einstein, Jane Addams, Eleanor Roosevelt, and Frederick Douglass rather than mentally ill or neurotic people, writing that "the study of crippled, stunted, immature, and unhealthy specimens can yield only a cripple psychology and a cripple philosophy."[3] Maslow studied the healthiest 1% of the college student population.[4]
Maslow's theory was fully expressed in his 1954 book Motivation and Personality
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Criticisms
In their extensive review of research based on Maslow's theory, Wahba and Bridgewell found little evidence for the ranking of needs Maslow described, or even for the existence of a definite hierarchy at all.[11] Chilean economist and philosopher Manfred Max-Neef has also argued fundamental human needs are non-hierarchical, and are ontologically universal and invariant in nature—part of the condition of being human; poverty, he argues, may result from any one of these needs being frustrated, denied or unfulfilled.[citation needed] The order in which the hierarchy is arranged (with self-actualization as the highest order need) has been criticised as being ethnocentric by Geert Hofstede.[12] Hofstede's criticism of Maslow's pyramid as ethnocentric may stem from the fact that Maslow’s hierarchy of needs neglects to illustrate and expand upon the difference between the social and intellectual needs of those raised in individualistic societies and those raised in collectivist societies. Maslow created his hierarchy of needs from an individualistic perspective, being that he was from the United States, a highly individualistic nation. The needs and drives of those in individualistic societies tend to be more self centered than those in collectivist societies, focusing on improvement of the self, with self actualization being the apex of self improvement. Since the hierarchy was written from the perspective of an individualist, the order of needs in the hierarchy with self actualization at the top is not representative of the needs of those in collectivist cultures. In collectivist societies, the needs of acceptance and community will outweigh the needs for freedom and individuality. [13] Maslow’s hierarchy has also been criticized as being individualistic because of the position and value of sex on the pyramid. Maslow’s pyramid puts sex on the bottom rung of physiological needs, along with breathing and food. It views sex from an individualistic and not collectivist perspective: i.e., as an individualistic physiological need that must be satisfied before one moves on to higher pursuits. This view of sex neglects the emotional, familial and evolutionary implications of sex within the community.[14][15]
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Post by Dave Schultz on Jan 15, 2011 23:24:16 GMT -5
Well when I went to college in the 70s -- the theory was pushed pretty hard in marketing, business and supervision classes I took. In the 35 years since I always put value in it based on my personal observations of the personalities of various friends, relatives, workers, and business associates. I always felt like Maslow's theory to be valid. Still do. While all of the detail might have flaws -- I thing generally is people go through the stages.
However opinions are like assholes -- we all have both.
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